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Clear it up: Is Akhenaten Tut's dad?!
Yes 81%  81%  [ 21 ]
No 8%  8%  [ 2 ]
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Good point....Too bad we can't though...:(....I think if we time-travelled though that would take some of the mystery and fun of it out of the whole thing completely...One thing I like to do is bounce ideas and theories off fellow Egypt 'freaks' (though I do not know fo many)....And if we knew...I wouldn't be able to do that any more....I always like to hear new opinions and ideas....

Merytre any reasons why you believe Akhenaten to be Tut's father and him not to have suffered Marfan's....? :D (I ask just about everyone this...)


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:51 pm 
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Well, after doing some years of reading...I don't know, really, I feel like the whole Amarna issue is never going to be concrete. Of course, in a fiction story, everything does have to be fairly concrete (at least in the story). That's just the way things are in my current story. But when it comes to the real thing, I'm not entirely sure what to believe now after being offered a gazillion theories to pick from. I guess I better shut up now; my brain hurts from the whole debate. :D

And yeah, good point, time-traveling would kind of spoil the whole thing and also put the Egyptologists out of business.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:19 am 
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We could find something that would sort things out e.g a papyrus letter saying something like 'what are you talking about - my father was a ... and he told me that ...' or a cuneiform tablet informing a mesomopotamian king about the current situation in Egypt.s
Not likely but we can hope.


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Valid points, Merytre. That was what happened to me...I read so many books that I just didn't know what to think. At one point I was even wondering if my main man was GAY. He obviously wasn't, but I still wondered all the same....The whole Smenkhare issue...(The statuette with a 'man' on Akhenaten's knee and they are kissing.) But it is good you really don't have a definite side to stick up for. That gives you more freedom to look at new evidence without being biased towards your own personal theories. (like tons of scholars still do.) I, myself, believe what I believe about Akhenaten for certain reasons. I doubt anyone will ever be able to convince me otherwise. I try to open to new ideas though........

I really hope we don't find anything definite about Akhenaten. Besides the above mentioned point, I really do not think that the world would be ready for the Truth. What would the world say IF he was a Prohet of God? Religion.....All the religions would go insane. It would leave them questioning their beliefs. As for scholars...I think their minds would be blown. And sometimes, I really do think we are not to find anything definite on the man for a reason......The world wasn't ready for the truth when he was alive and they most definitely are not ready for it now.


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Another thing....(I posted before reading all this....Now I have went back and read some if, so I have to open my big mouth agaaaaain.)

Kiya.....is only said to have been given credit for two births. A daughter, and then everyone credits her with Tut's birth....(Although there be proof....I cannot think of it, besides Akhenaten's tomb.)

I just started thinking of all th epossiblilties that could mean, but......my head is spinning because of it.... :shock:

That's all I wanted to say.....Two not three. TWO. (Kiya no birthy Smenkhare.......)


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Yes Kiya appears to have had a daughter and she is credited as being Tut's mum for two reasons I think: Nefertiti was never portrayed with sons, although this isn't conclusive. I don't think Akhenaten/Amenhotep was ever portrayed with his father Amenhotep III anywhere. He seems to have always been portrayed with Tiye and their daughters. Another reason is that there are no other candidates apart from the strange theory that Tiye was Tut's mother by Akhenaten. Don't really subscribe to that one. The Kiya theory seems to make the most sense.


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There is also a theory--that I, personally believe to be true--that Tut is the half-brother of Akhenaten, a child of AIII and one of his lesser wives or concubines. Tiye would have been past her childbaring stage.
This is shown to be more of an accepted theory if there was a co-rule between Akhenaten and his father.
It is quite accepted by most that Akhenaten was the second son of AIII and Tiye, and came to the throne after the death of his elder brother.
Not to be pictured with the Pharaoh was not that unusual, many who went on to be Pharaoh themselves and with no doubt to there paternity were not pictured as children.


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I agree to a certain degree. At the time of Tutankhamen's birth, Tiye would have been well past her child baring years.
But it is quite possible for AIII to have fathered another child. Many men of advanced years have produced children. The mother could have been one of his lesser wives, or a concubine.


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