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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:15 am 
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When it comes to Atlantis, I'm with Plato. I read on this forum that Homer invented Atlantis. Is there evidence for that? According to Plato's dialogues, the Egyptians were the first to know about Atlantis, or something along those lines. Well here are the similarities between Thera (Ancient Santorini) and Atlantis:

Evidence of technological advancements: Pipes with running water and water closets were found at the site of Akrotiri on Santorini, they were the oldest such utilities discovered. Descriptions of Atlantis describe Atlantis as having dual pipes with hot and cold running water as well as advanced architecture.

The layout of the Akrotiri find closely resembles Plato's description of the city of Atlantis.

"Now in this island of Atlantis there was a great and wonderful empire which had rule over island and several others"- Plato. The ancient civilization on Thera did have control of several of the islands around it.

According to Plato, Atlantis had a circular shape. Santorini also has a circular shape. In the centre of the sunken area of Santorini (covered in water) is a central cone. According to Plato's dialogues, Atlantis had a central hill where the palace was.

The Islad of Thera was mostly destroyed by a volcanic eruption around 1500 B.C. One theory for the destruction of Atlantis is that a volcanic eruption caused tsunamis 900 years before Solon spoke to the Egyptian priests, around 1500 B.C.

According to Plato's dialogues, he describes Atlantis as a sea-faring and peaceful civilization before it fell into corruption. Archaeological evidence of Minoan culture on Santorini points to the lack of weapons, aswell as there being no warfare depicted in their artwork.

The Thera eruption left a huge crater in the centre of the island. Whatever was in the middle is know on the ocean floor. This supports the "sunken city" story.

The ritual of bull-jumping commonly depicted in Minoan artwork parallels stories told by Egyptian priests (in the legend) that describe the inhabitants of Keftiu (a city in Atlantis [possibly Akrotiri]) as taking part in ritual bull-jumping and sacrifice.


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If someone misread the 100 sign as a 1000 the dates and sizes fit quite well.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:35 am 
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I have heard someone say there might have been more than 1 set of pilars. Also He might have just thought there is no room for somewhere that big in the the Mediterranean so it must be beyond Gibraltar .


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Oh but aren't you all underestimating him now? This is Plato we 're talking about...Not sure if he were an actual member of the Greek Mystery Schools but if you read some of his works, it becomes obvious the man was some kind of an Initiate. I don't see how he could have been so naive(regarding dates, locations of The Pillars etc).


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:11 am 
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Where did he get his information from? I believe very few non Egyptians (and not many Egyptians) could read Egyptian.


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1. Plato got the information from Solon, who had travelled to Egypt.
2. It is always possible that even if Solon couldn't speak Egyptian, maybe the priest could speak Greek.
3. Yes, there is more than one location for the Pillars of Hercules. According to modern research the Straight of Gibiltrar (Is that how it's spelt?) is only one of many possible places, so we may never know which Pillars of Hercules Plato was talking about. But of course now we have to research what exactly he meant by Pillars of Hercules in ancient Greek terms.


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I stand corrected on the Pillars issue. I spent the whole of yesterday doing some research and apparently it is true, there was more than one location for them. But as Fernald said, the point is where Plato and his audience would have considered the real Pillars to be. *Unless* he was aware of the different locations and he didn't bother to define in order to confuse the enemy- so to speak.

Still, I think we can safely discard the Thera connection given Plato was in Athens, addressing mainly an Athenian audience and Thera/Santorini is only a few nautical miles to the south of Athens. No room for Pillars in between.

But I have to say, I remain resolute on the date issue.


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